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Heaviest 1-day rain in Oklahoma City history; 92L fizzles
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 02:45 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010 +4
Oklahoma City's rainiest day in history brought rampaging floods to the city and surrounding areas yesterday, as widespread rain amounts of 8 - 11 inches deluged the city. Fortunately, no confirmed deaths or injuries have been blamed on the mayhem, though damage is extensive. Oklahoma City's Will Rogers Airport received 7.62" of rain yesterday, smashing the record for the rainiest day in city history. According to the National Climatic Data Center, the city's previous rainiest day occurred September 22, 1970, when 7.53 inches fell. Some rivers continue to rise due to all the rain, and the Canadian River east of downtown Oklahoma City is four feet over flood stage, with major flooding expected today. You can track the flooding using our wundermap with the USGS Flood layer turned on.


Figure 1. Radar-estimated precipitation for the period June 14 - 15, 2010, during the Oklahoma City floods. A large swath of 8 - 10 inches of rain (dark red colors) was indicated, from Oklahoma City northeastwards.

An inordinate number of major U.S. floods this year
We've had an inordinate number of severe floods in the U.S. so far this year. The worst was the May Tennessee flood, which killed 31 people--the highest death toll from a non-tropical cyclone flooding event in the U.S. since 1994, and the most devastating disaster in Tennessee since the Civil War. The Tennessee floods were rated as a 1000-year flood for Middle Tennessee, West Tennessee, South Central and Western Kentucky and northern Mississippi. Two-day rain totals in some areas were greater than 19 inches.Last Friday's disastrous flash flood in Albert Pike Recreation Area, Arkansas, killed twenty people. That flood was triggered by 8+ inches of rain that fell in just a few hours over the rugged mountains west of Hot Springs. And in March, record rains from a slow-moving and extremely wet Nor'easter triggered historic flooding in Rhode Island and Southeastern Massachusetts, with several rivers exceeding their 100-year flood levels. The 16.32" of rain that fell on Providence, Rhode Island, made March that city's wettest month in recorded history.

All of these flooding events were associated with airmasses though brought record-breaking warm temperatures to surrounding regions of the country. For example, during the overnight hours when the June 11 flood in Arkansas occurred, fifty airports in the Southern and Midwestern U.S. had their highest minimum temperatures on record. During the 1000-year flood in Tennessee, 51 warm minimum temperatures records were set in the eastern half of the U.S. on May 1, and 97 records on May 2. Rhode Island's record wettest March also happened to be its record warmest March. And the air mass that spawned yesterday's Oklahoma City floods set record warm minimum temperatures at 22 airports across the central and Eastern portions of the U.S. on Monday. All this is not surprising, since more moisture can evaporate into warmer air, making record-setting rainfall events more likely when record warm temperatures are present. The total number of airports in the U.S. considered for these comparisons is around 500, so we're talking about significant portions of the U.S. being exposed to these record-breaking warm airmasses this year. For the spring months of March - May, it was the 21st warmest such period in the 116-year record, according to the National Climatic Data Center. At the 500 or so largest airports in the U.S., daily high temperature records outnumbered low temperature records by about a factor 2.5, 1200 to 508. Record high minimums this spring outnumbered record low maximums by 1163 to 568. So far in June, record daily highs have outpaced record lows by 176 to 13, and record high minimums have outpaced record low maximums, 419 to 62.

Flooding and global warming
Groisman et al. (2004) found that in the U.S. during the 20th century, there was a 16% increase in cold season (October - April) "heavy" precipitation events (greater than 2 inches in one day), a 25% increase in "very heavy" precipitation events (greater than 4 inches in one day), and a 36% rise in "extreme" precipitation events (those in the 99.9% percentile--1 in 1000 events.) A sharp rise in extreme precipitation is what is predicted by global warming models in the scientific literature Hegerl et al. (2004). According the landmark 2009 U.S. Climate Impact Report from the U.S. Global Change Research Program, "the amount of rain falling in the heaviest downpours has increased approximately 20 percent on average in the past century, and this trend is very likely to continue, with the largest increases in the wettest places." Most of this increase came since 1970, due to the approximate 1°F increase in U.S. average temperature since 1970. That 1°F increase in temperature means that there is 4% more moisture in the atmosphere, on average. According to the 2007 IPCC report, water vapor in the global atmosphere has increased by about 5% over the 20th century, and 4% since 1970. Satellite measurements (Trenberth et al., 2005) have shown a 1.3% per decade increase in water vapor over the global oceans since 1988. Santer et al. (2007) used a climate model to study the relative contribution of natural and human-caused effects on increasing water vapor, and concluded that this increase was "primarily due to human-caused increases in greenhouse gases". This was also the conclusion of Willet et al. (2007).

Dr. Joe Romm over at climateprogress.org has an excellent interview with Dr. Kevin Trenberth of the National Center of Atmospheric Research on the subject of heavy precipitation events and global warming. Dr. Trenberth is the world's leading expert on water vapor in the atmosphere, and he comments that "since the 1970s, on average, there's about a 4% increase in water vapor over the Atlantic Ocean, and when that gets caught into a storm, it invigorates the storm so the storm itself changes, and that can easily double the influence of that water vapor and so you can get up to an 8% increase, straight from the amount of water vapor that's sort of hanging around in the atmosphere. This is reasonably well established." Dr. Trenberth further comments, "Now the physical cause for this is very much related to the water vapor that flows into these storms. And these kinds of storms, well all storms for that matter, reach out on average--this is very much a gross average--about 4 times the radius or 16 times the area of the region that's precipitating, the rain. And for these kinds of storms a lot of the moisture is coming out of the sub-tropical Atlantic and even the tropical Atlantic; some of it comes out of the Gulf of Mexico. And so the moisture actually travels about 2000 miles where it gets caught up in these storms and then it rains down. And the key thing is, that in the tropical and sub-tropical Atlantic the sea temperatures are at very high levels and in fact they're the highest on record at the moment right in the eastern tropical Atlantic. It's going to be interesting to see what that does for this hurricane season coming up."

We cannot say that any of this year's flooding disasters were definitely due to global warming, and part of the reason for this year's numerous U.S. flooding disasters is simply bad luck. However, higher temperatures do cause an increased chance of heavy precipitation events, and it is likely that the flooding in some of this year's U.S. flooding disasters were significantly enhanced by the presence of more water vapor in the air due to global warming. We can expect a large increase in flooding disasters in the U.S. and worldwide if the climate continues to warm as expected.


Figure 2. A portable classroom building from a nearby high school floats past submerged cars on I-24 near Nashville, TN on May 1, 2010. One person died in the flooding in this region of I-24. Roughly 200 - 250 vehicles got submerged on this section of I-24, according to wunderphotographer laughingjester, who was a tow truck operator called in to clear out the stranded vehicles.

Funding issues threaten hundreds of streamgages
According to the USGS web site, river stage data from 292 streamgages has been discontinued recently, or is scheduled for elimination in the near future due to budget cuts. In Tennessee, 16 streamflow gages with records going back up to 85 years will stop collecting data on July 1 because of budget cuts. Five gages in Arkansas are slated for elimination this year. Hardest hit will be Pennsylvania, which will lose 30 of its 258 streamgages. With over 50 people dead from two flooding disasters already this year, now hardly seems to be the time to be skimping on monitoring river flow levels by cutting funding for hundreds of streamgages. These gages are critical for proper issuance of flood warnings to people in harm's way. Furthermore, most of the northern 2/3 of the U.S. can expect a much higher incidence of record flooding in coming decades. This will be driven by two factors: increased urban development causing faster run-off, and an increase in very heavy precipitation events due to global warming.


Figure 3. Streamgages that have been discontinued or are being considered for discontinuation or for conversion from continuous record discharge to stage-only stations. Funds for these 292 threatened streamgages are from the U.S. Geological Survey and other Federal, State, Tribal, and local agencies. For those streamgages that have already been discontinued, extensive efforts were made to find another funding source; however, when no funding was made available the streamgages had to be discontinued. If you have questions about specific streamgages, click on the state of concern on the USGS web page of threatened stream gages.

Dry air disrupting 92L
Invest 92L, which yesterday was a remarkably well-developed African tropical wave for so early in the season, has fizzled, due to dry air. Infrared satellite loops show the disturbance has lost nearly all of its heavy thunderstorms, and water vapor satellite loops show that the storm has wrapped a large amount of dry air to the west into the storm's center of circulation. With the storm continuing to track west-northwest to northwest into dryer air, the prospects for 92L developing into a tropical depression appear dim. With wind shear expected to rise from its current levels of 10 - 15 knots to 20 - 25 knots on Wednesday, the combination of shear and dry air should be able to pretty much destroy 92L on Wednesday. Shear values will likely increase to 30 - 40 knots by Friday, when 92L will move into the northern Lesser Antilles Islands. There is a window of opportunity this afternoon for 92L to fend off the dry air and organize into a tropical depression. One advantage the storm has it that it has developed a well-formed surface circulation. The low-level center of circulation is easy to spot on satellite imagery, since wind shear due to strong upper-level winds from the west have exposed the center to view. The National Hurricane Center is giving 92L a moderate (30% chance) of developing into a tropical depression by Thursday morning. I would put the chances a bit lower, at 20%. Even if 92L does develop into a tropical depression, it is highly unlikely to cause any trouble for the Lesser Antilles Islands, since wind shear and dry air will probably destroy the system before it can reach the islands.


Figure 4. Morning satellite image of Invest 92L. The low-level circulation is easy to spot on satellite imagery, since wind shear due to strong upper-level winds from the west have exposed the center to view. A small clump of heavy thunderstorms is located just east of the exposed center of circulation.

Elsewhere in the tropics
None of the reliable computer models is calling for tropical cyclone development in the Atlantic over the next seven days. There is a small swirl of low clouds visible in satellite imagery at 8N, 22W, just off the coast of Africa, associated with a tropical wave. This circulation is under wind shear of about 20 knots, which is probably too high for such a small circulation to survive in.

Oil spill wind and ocean current forecast
Light, predominantly southwesterly to westerly winds of 5 - 10 knots will blow in the northern Gulf of Mexico most of this week, according to the latest marine forecast from NOAA. The more westerly wind direction is expected to maintain a slow (1/2 mph) eastward-moving surface ocean current that will transport oil eastwards along the Florida Panhandle coast, according to the latest ocean current forecast from NOAA's HYCOM model. These winds and currents may be capable of transporting oil as far east as Panama City, Florida, by the end of the week. Oil will continue to threaten the coasts of Louisiana, Alabama, and Mississippi for the remainder of the week as well, according to the latest trajectory forecasts from NOAA and the State of Louisiana. The long range 8 - 16 day forecast from the GFS model indicates a typical summertime light wind regime, with winds mostly blowing out of the south or southeast. This wind regime will likely keep oil close to the coastal areas that have already seen oil impacts over the past two weeks.

NOAA has lauched a great new interactive mapping tool that allows one to overlay wind forecasts, ocean current forecasts, oil location, etc.

Oil spill resources
My post, What a hurricane would do the Deepwater Horizon oil spill
My post on the Southwest Florida "Forbidden Zone" where surface oil will rarely go
My post on what oil might do to a hurricane
NOAA has lauched a great new interactive mapping tool that allows one to overlay wi
nd forecasts, ocean current forecasts, oil location, etc.
Gulf Oil Blog from the UGA Department of Marine Sciences
Oil Spill Academic Task Force
University of South Florida Ocean Circulation Group oil spill forecasts
ROFFS Deepwater Horizon page
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imagery from the University of Miami

"Hurricane Haven" airing again this afternoon
Tune into another airing of my live Internet radio show, "Hurricane Haven", at 4pm EDT today. Listeners will be able to call in and ask questions. The call in number is 415-983-2634, or you can post a question in the comments area on my blog. You can also email the questions to me today before the show: jmasters@wunderground.com. Be sure to include "Hurricane Haven question" in the subject line. Some topics I'll cover today on the show:

1) Why did 92L die so quickly?
2) Is the formation of 92L a harbinger of an active hurricane season?
3) What damage could a hurricane do to oil drilling platforms and underwater pipes at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico?

Today's show, will be 1/2 hour, and you can tune in at http://www.wunderground.com/wxradio/wubroadcast.h tml. The show will be recorded and stored as a podcast.

Jeff Masters
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351. IKE 07:07 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting WindDamage:
ike, what's up? i thoughts june was gonna go out like a lame?


I said I thought it could. I could easily be wrong.
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352. mrsalagranny 07:07 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
This is definitely trouble. Trough off the eastern seaboard drawing tropical waves up into the Caribbean, and building MJO upward motion pulse lowering heights and pressures in the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico. The 500mb inverted trough near western Cuba is 92L and the one in the eastern Caribbean is the wave behind it which could be a bigger problem.

The ecmwf map you were showing does it show what I think it is showing.Systems entering the GOM and the Carribean?Im not a meterologist or anything,but to my naked eye that is what it looks like.Pleasecorrect me if i am wrong.tia
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353. Levi32 07:07 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting mrsalagranny:
The ecmwf map you were showing does it show what I think it is showing.Systems entering the GOM and the Carribean?Im not a meterologist or anything,but to my naked eye that is what it looks like.Pleasecorrect me if i am wrong.tia


Yes.
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356. IKE 07:08 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting WindDamage:
well, let's hope your not.


Thanks.
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357. MiamiHurricanes09 07:08 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting CyclonicVoyage:



That was the 92L Floater and they've done just fine for me that past 4 years, maybe it's experience, ya think?
Well it seems that you have very low standards when searching for satellite imagery as SSD images are one of the worst out there. No offense to the SSD floaters I just don't like them whatsoever for their lack of quality and they are over an hour old after they're updated.
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358. ryang 07:09 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Uh-uh....

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359. MiamiHurricanes09 07:09 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
Borad area of low pressure in the Caribbean and a system near the Lesser Antilles:

NOGAPS, GFS, and CMC show it too,
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360. Caribbeanislands101 07:10 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting CaribBoy:


Is JFV now in PR? =D

Excuse me ?
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361. IKE 07:12 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting ryang:
Uh-uh....



That's a rather ominous looking sight. It's 9 days out. I hope it's wrong.
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362. CaribBoy 07:12 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
0308PM PR NWS DISCUSSION :

BY FRIDAY...A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN MOISTURE IS
EXPECTED. A TROPICAL WAVE CURRENTLY NEAR 45 WEST...WHICH IS NEAR
1000 MILES EAST OF THE LESSER ANTILLES...IS EXPECTED TO APPROACH
THE NORTHEAST CARIBBEAN. COMPUTER MODELS SUGGEST THIS WAVE WILL
BRING A SURGE IN MOISTURE STARTING ON FRIDAY...AND PROBABLY
LASTING UNTIL SUNDAY. LATEST SJU-GFS PROG SOUNDINGS INDICATED PW
VALUES WILL INCREASE AS HIGH AS 2.3 INCHES BY SUNDAY. ALSO...UPPER
LEVEL DYNAMICS LOOKS BETTER FOR SUNDAY....AS THE WAVE INTERACT WITH
THE TUTT LOW. THEREFORE...AT THIS MOMENT...SUNDAY LOOKS VERY WET
ACROSS THE LOCAL AREA. STAY TUNED FOR FURTHER INFORMATION AS WE
APPROACH THE FATHER`S DAY WEEKEND.
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363. JLPR2 07:12 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting Caribbeanislands101:


Do you think will get a hurricane in pr this season? lol


possible, we are at risk every year but have been lucky so far, lets cross ours fingers and hope that luck continues ^^
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364. Caribbeanislands101 07:14 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:


possible, we are at risk every year but have been lucky so far, lets cross ours fingers and hope that luck continues ^^

true, it's been 12 years since the last direct hit in 1998
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365. Levi32 07:14 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
92L's vort max in the southern Gulf of Mexico...next wave north of Venezuela wants to pop. Even the one behind that looks suspicious.

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366. CaribBoy 07:14 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting Caribbeanislands101:

Excuse me ?


never mind. was a joke;
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367. Caribbeanislands101 07:15 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting CaribBoy:


never mind. was a joke;

sorry, lol, i take it your down here too, right?
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369. CaribBoy 07:17 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting Caribbeanislands101:

sorry, lol, i take it your down here too, right?


actually, no
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370. MiamiHurricanes09 07:17 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
92L's vort max in the southern Gulf of Mexico...next wave north of Venezuela wants to pop. Even the one behind that looks suspicious.

Damn, what's up with this June Cape Verde season?
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371. wunderkidcayman 07:18 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
I still say 92L is not dead just in the hospital bed on life support and need CPR and a higher dose of meds
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372. Caribbeanislands101 07:19 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting CaribBoy:


actually, no

wow, sorry about that, i just thought that since it said Carib - boy, i figured you were down in the islands.
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373. Dropsonde 07:19 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
I was afraid of this. With the upgrade a season or two ago, the CMC isn't a joke anymore. (That would be the GFS, unfortunately.) That second wave honestly concerns me more than 92L's remnants, because 92L (in whatever form) is taking a path that will ensure that it gets battered but yet leaves its energy in the Caribbean for anything behind it to feast on. The second system pulls an Ivan (that part of the path only, and let's not even speculate on intensity, far too much at stake). In fact, it seems to go even closer to South America than Ivan did.
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374. ryang 07:19 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
I have a question..

I'm not too good yet at ''reading maps'', but is that a fairly strong Azores high in the EATL/CATL on the 12z Euro run?
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375. Levi32 07:19 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Spin remains very well-defined with 92L. Running into warmer water now.
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377. Levi32 07:20 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
12z CMC 144-hours:

A bit too fast with that 2nd wave.

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379. MississippiWx 07:21 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
Spin remains very well-defined with 92L. Running into warmer water now.


Agreed, but shear looks terrible on satellite.
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380. CaribBoy 07:23 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting Caribbeanislands101:

wow, sorry about that, i just thought that since it said Carib - boy, i figured you were down in the islands.


Don't be sorry.. I meant i wasn't in PR. I'm in st martin, Leeward Islands.
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381. JLPR2 07:23 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Well, see you later guys, going out again XD
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382. wunderkidcayman 07:24 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Levi32 if only shear would decrese which I think it will down the road
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383. ryang 07:24 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting ryang:
I have a question..

I'm not too good yet at ''reading maps'', but is that a fairly strong Azores high in the EATL/CATL on the 12z Euro run?
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384. CaribBoy 07:25 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
...at least 92L or whats left of it could bring much needed rains over some of the islands.
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385. MiamiHurricanes09 07:25 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting wunderkidcayman:
Levi32 if only shear would decrese which I think it will down the road
GFS calls for a pretty big decrease of shear in a couple of days.
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386. Drakoen 07:27 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
92L does have a nice well-defined circulation. The question is whether or not it can last until it gets into the eastern Caribbean.
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387. CaribBoy 07:28 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
GFS calls for a pretty big decrease of shear in a couple of days.


Where do u think 92L would be by then?
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388. Levi32 07:29 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Shear will remain at roughly the same level that it is now near the system through its approach to the leeward Antilles. Thereafter things get tougher, and upper-level conditions won't have a chance to get better until 92L makes it to the Gulf of Mexico, if it makes it there. It has to play with all the big Caribbean islands first while still maintaining a recognizable surface circulation, which is very hard to do.
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389. CaribBoy 07:30 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
I see we didnt have 18Z BAMs
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390. CaribBoy 07:31 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
Shear will remain at roughly the same level that it is now near the system through its approach to the leeward Antilles. Thereafter things get tougher, and upper-level conditions won't have a chance to get better until 92L makes it to the Gulf of Mexico, if it makes it there. It has to play with all the big Caribbean islands first while still maintaining a recognizable surface circulation, which is very hard to do.


Are 10-15Kts the current values?
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391. wunderkidcayman 07:31 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
how funny very ... wait... do you guys see what I see... is it just me or does...

DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
15/1745 UTC 13.3N 45.5W T1.0/1.0 92L
15/1145 UTC 12.5N 43.6W TOO WEAK 92L
15/0545 UTC 12.0N 42.6W T1.0/1.0 92L
14/2345 UTC 11.3N 41.7W T1.0/1.0 92L
14/1745 UTC 10.4N 40.9W T1.0/1.0 92L
14/1145 UTC 9.5N 39.8W T1.0/1.0 92L
14/0545 UTC 9.1N 38.6W T1.0/1.0 92L
13/2345 UTC 7.8N 37.0W T1.0/1.0 92L
13/1745 UTC 6.7N 36.1W T1.0/1.0 92L
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392. FloridaTigers 07:31 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting IKE:


From what I see of the 12Z runs, I wouldn't be shocked if June doesn't wind up....0-0-0.

To anyone: Yes, I know June is usually quiet. But, this is suppose to be an active season...comparable to 2005. I've seen map after map on here comparing 2010 to 2005. It may wind up being as busy, but does anyone think we'll be at the "E" storm in the Atlantic by July 11th, 2010? Where we were at in 2005 with Emily? I don't.

Comebacks welcome!



Why wasn't Emily's name retired anyways?
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393. CybrTeddy 07:31 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Sees that several models including the ECMWF are hinting on development of a system in the Caribbean next week. Watch for persistence, then give merit.
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394. Caribbeanislands101 07:32 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
believe it or not invest, 92 is still hanging in there, and almost moving due west, and a few thunderstorms are reforming near the center, however, the forecast calls for this too die very soon, we will see what happens
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395. Levi32 07:32 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting CaribBoy:


Are 10-15Kts the current values?


Directly over the center yes. It will remain pretty much on the edge of the TUTT as it lifts out, right along the boundary of light shear and destructive shear.
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396. Drakoen 07:33 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
Shear will remain at roughly the same level that it is now near the system through its approach to the leeward Antilles. Thereafter things get tougher, and upper-level conditions won't have a chance to get better until 92L makes it to the Gulf of Mexico, if it makes it there. It has to play with all the big Caribbean islands first while still maintaining a recognizable surface circulation, which is very hard to do.


If 92L heads towards the Greater Antilles there is no hope; however, entry into the central Lesser Antilles and into the Caribbean upper level winds will be quite favorable.
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397. Caribbeanislands101 07:34 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting CaribBoy:


Don't be sorry.. I meant i wasn't in PR. I'm in st martin, Leeward Islands.

oh ok, very nice place by the way, i've been there before.
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398. MiamiHurricanes09 07:34 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting CaribBoy:


Where do u think 92L would be by then?
No idea. As long as it has its circulation by the time it gets into the eastern Caribbean it has a decent shot of developing.
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399. WaterWitch11 07:35 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
we have had 3 major flash flood events in 1.5 months. is la nina the cause?

Hang On St Christopher
Link

this guy is awesome!

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400. CaribBoy 07:35 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting wunderkidcayman:
how funny very ... wait... do you guys see what I see... is it just me or does...

DATE/TIME LAT LON CLASSIFICATION STORM
15/1745 UTC 13.3N 45.5W T1.0/1.0 92L
15/1145 UTC 12.5N 43.6W TOO WEAK 92L
15/0545 UTC 12.0N 42.6W T1.0/1.0 92L
14/2345 UTC 11.3N 41.7W T1.0/1.0 92L
14/1745 UTC 10.4N 40.9W T1.0/1.0 92L
14/1145 UTC 9.5N 39.8W T1.0/1.0 92L
14/0545 UTC 9.1N 38.6W T1.0/1.0 92L
13/2345 UTC 7.8N 37.0W T1.0/1.0 92L
13/1745 UTC 6.7N 36.1W T1.0/1.0 92L


mm back to life for another short moment.... or maybe it will beat the shear
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401. CaribBoy 07:37 PM GMT am 15. Juni 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


Directly over the center yes. It will remain pretty much on the edge of the TUTT as it lifts out, right along the boundary of light shear and destructive shear.


Thanks Levi. Well we shall see what happen
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Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.

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