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Matthew drenching Central America and Mexico
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 03:35 PM GMT am 25. September 2010 +4
Tropical Storm Matthew continues to dump heavy rains over Honduras, Belize, Guatemala, and neighboring regions of Mexico today. Puerto Barrios, in northern Guatemala, has received 4.57" of rain in the past 24 hours. With Matthew expected to slow down and dissipate by Sunday, the storm's heavy rains of 6 - 15 inches can be expected to cause severe flooding and dangerous mudslides. The rains are of particular concern for Guatemala, which suffered its rainiest August in its history, followed by the landfall of Tropical Depression 11E during the first week of September, which dumped torrential rains on the country that triggered flooding and mudslides that killed at least 48 Guatemalans.


Figure 1. Visible satellite image from NASA's Terra satellite taken yesterday, showing Tropical Storm Matthew approaching landfall.


Figure 2. Forecast rain amounts for the 5-day period beginning at 2am EDT today (Saturday, September 25) as predicted by this morning's 2am EDT (6Z) run of the GFDL. Very heavy rains in excess of eight inches (yellow colors) are predicted for portions of Central America along Matthew's track. Image credit: Morris Bender, NOAA/GFDL.

Lisa
Tropical Storm Lisa pulled a bit of a surprise last night, intensifying into a Category 1 hurricane with 80 mph winds in the far Eastern Atlantic. Lisa's longitude of 27.9W at the time made it the 10th strongest hurricane so far east in the Atlantic. Record keeping began in 1851, but it is likely that many hurricanes stronger than Lisa were missed prior to the advent of reliable satellite coverage in 1974. Lisa is even farther east than Category 4 Hurricane Julia, which earlier this month set the record for strongest hurricane ever recorded so far east. Lisa's glory will be short-lived, though, as strong upper level winds out of the west are expected to increase tonight, bringing high wind shear of 20 - 45 knots over the storm. The high shear may be capable of destroying the storm by early next week. It appears unlikely that Lisa will affect any land areas.

Forecast for the rest of the tropics
Most of the models continue to predict that by Wednesday, the remnants of Matthew, and/or a piece of a tropical disturbance over the Eastern Pacific off the coast of Guatemala, will evolve into a huge and very wet low pressure system that will start spinning over Central America and the Western Caribbean. NHC has been referring to this expected storm as a "monsoon low", and these sorts of storms are very dangerous for Central America and the Western Caribbean, even if they do not develop into a tropical storm. In October 2007, a similar monsoon low I dubbed "the sleeping giant" spent a week spinning over the region, dumping very heavy rains over all of Central America and the countries bordering the Western Caribbean. Rains from this system triggered flooding that killed 45 people in Haiti, damaged thousands of homes in Cuba, and caused havoc in Guatemala, El Salvador, Belize, Mexico, Jamaica, the Cayman Islands, and the Bahamas. A similar type of storm is likely to develop on Wednesday and Thursday, and most of Central America and the nations surrounding the Western Caribbean can expect to see dangerous flooding rains develop this week in association with this giant low. Most of the models also predict that this big low will eventually develop into a tropical storm or hurricane that would be drawn northwards over Cuba late in the week, and threaten the Bahamas, Florida, or the U.S. Gulf of Mexico coast. This is an exceptionally difficult system to forecast correctly, and the models have been coming up with some pretty unusual solutions as to what might happen. We'll just have to wait and see what unfolds over the next few days.

I'll have an update Sunday by 2pm.

Jeff Masters
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851. leo305 11:28 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

This Nicole (as she will most likely form) really scares me for some reason.


if it develops early, it's ganna drifting over near 90 degree waters for days.. once and if it develops a tight core over those waters.. wouldn't suprise me if we get a major out of it fairly quickly..

again this all depends on when it forms its closed circulation and where it's located..

but it's looking to me like something is trying to develop in the gulf of honduras and driving North westward towards the western carribean right now.
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853. Grothar 11:29 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
GFS 162 hours out, different map

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856. OSHNBLU 11:30 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting sngalla:


Rotflmao! Bingo!

Good synopsis, but a bit creepy over the seasons. Lurker that I am.
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857. Hurricanes101 11:30 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting alcomat:
dead on? oh really? what about that sharp right hook toward florida,that it was supposed to take,when it got to the coast of the yucatan? I would say more like dead off..


Oh I forgot the NHC knows nothing

forget it folks, its going to the BOC, NHC has no clue what it is talking about

I guess everyone forgets that hook stayed for 1 ADVISORY!!! the next advisory they had it inland of mexico

Again I repeat, NHC has been nearly dead on with track
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860. beell 11:30 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting Grothar:


Home come nobody mentioned it?


LOL!
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861. Chicklit 11:31 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    


Can someone explain to me why there is so much vorticity at 22N 28W yet nothing is on satellite?
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865. leo305 11:32 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting Grothar:
GFS 162 hours out, different map



it expects 4 tropical storms to be connected with each other and each be entered along the entire east coast of the United states? Sure..
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868. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:33 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
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869. Grothar 11:34 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
This one is 174 hours out, interesting.

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872. JLPR2 11:35 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

IMO...I think it's pretty safe to begin thinking about writing his obituary. He definitely is looking more and more frail. Not too mention his future track being of higher terrain does not exactly favor him.

Not gonna completely bail on him yet, but I think the center of attention will turn to future Nicole gradually the next couple days.


There is quite a large, you could say monsoonal circulation in which Matthew was the center but a new one could try to develop with him starting to wither away, but the question is when and where? :\
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873. WXTXN 11:35 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Those are the coldest cloud tops in the western atlantic,  not dead yet...

Quoting cat5hurricane:

IMO...I think it's pretty safe to begin thinking about writing his obituary. He definitely is looking more and more frail. Not too mention his future track being of higher terrain does not exactly favor him.

Not gonna completely bail on him yet, but I think the center of attention will turn to future Nicole gradually the next couple days.

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874. mbjjm 11:35 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
This disturbance south of Haiti could be what the models are calling Nicole. Or Matthew could still loop and find its into the QWestern Caribbean redevelop be named Nicole, and the Haiti disturbance could develop into Otto. So we could have two system, very complex times

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876. atmoaggie 11:36 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting beell:


We call it "Fall" on the Gulf Coast.

(j/k)
lol.
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877. KimberlyB 11:36 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:


Can someone explain to me why there is so much vorticity at 22N 28W yet nothing is on satellite?


I can't, but I can tell you that you have WUmail when you get a chance. Thanks.
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878. Hurricanes101 11:36 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting WXTXN:
Those are the coldest cloud tops in the western atlantic,  not dead yet...




all that is is convection, circulation is well to the east of that
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882. catastropheadjuster 11:38 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting sngalla:


Hey Girl! Haven't seen you in awhile. Looks like alot of the longtime WUBA's are on tonite.


We had someone on the other night from 2001 and 2002. I thought it was pretty awsome.
sheri
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883. Chucktown 11:38 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting Chicklit:


Can someone explain to me why there is so much vorticity at 22N 28W yet nothing is on satellite?


That's Lisa.
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885. Jedkins01 11:38 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Just so you guys know, yes I'm being technical, and probably annoying for saying this, but the term "monsoon" cannot refer to systems in the Caribbean, they don't occur in that part of the world.

However, it is possibly for an almost monsoonal pattern to occur, but not actually a true monsoon.
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886. stormlvr 11:39 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting Jedkins01:



Yeah I'm pretty sure all real Meteorologists don't consider him to be a credible source, Joe Bastardi's job is to generate media rating, not follow the science of meteorology.


He is very well respected for skill and knowledge but some dislike his attitude and presentation.
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887. sngalla 11:39 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting catastropheadjuster:


We had someone on the other night from 2001 and 2002. I thought it was pretty awsome.
sheri


Hey Sheri! Don't see alot of the people on anymore that we started with.
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888. utilaeastwind 11:40 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Here are some pictures from Utila, Honduras taken this morning. The strong seas lasted about two hours.

Enough!





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889. JLPR2 11:40 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting Jedkins01:
Just so you guys know, yes I'm being technical, and probably annoying for saying this, but the term "monsoon" cannot refer to systems in the Caribbean, they don't occur in that part of the world.

However, it is possibly for an almost monsoonal pattern to occur, but not actually a true monsoon.


That's true.
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890. Seflhurricane 11:40 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
have the new model runs come out and if they have are they still being consistent with the tropical disturbance forming 3-5 days out
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891. beell 11:40 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:


I have searched and searched for any papers on a monsoon in the Caribbean Sea, and have not found any. The East Pacific and Central America, yes. Just not in the Caribbean. Oh, IMO Alex was from a tropical wave.


Same search results here. Good to know. And I would rate your research skills as A1.
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894. islander101010 11:41 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting stormlvr:


He is very well respected for skill and knowledge but some dislike his attitude and presentation.
he's smart as heck but wrong alot remember gilbert he wanted galveston evacuated
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895. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:41 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
000
ABNT20 KNHC 252330
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT SAT SEP 25 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON TROPICAL
STORM LISA...LOCATED ABOUT 605 MILES NORTH-NORTHWEST OF THE CAPE
VERDE ISLANDS...AND ON TROPICAL DEPRESSION MATTHEW...LOCATED INLAND
OVER GUATEMALA ABOUT 105 MILES SOUTHWEST OF CHETUMAL MEXICO.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BLAKE
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896. stormwatcherCI 11:41 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting utilaeastwind:
Here are some pictures from Utila, Honduras taken this morning. The strong seas lasted about two hours.

Enough!





http://www.utilaeastwind.com/Utilaeastwind_TSMATTHEW45.jpg
Awesome pictures and hope the damage there was not too bad.
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897. Seflhurricane 11:41 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
In my opinion, they should just take the bannings away.

Its not doing any good, everybody circumvents anyways.
it would be intresting to see if the next model runs still remain consistent with the new system yet to form
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900. WeatherNerdPR 11:42 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting Grothar:
GFS 162 hours out, different map


That's just weird...
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901. PSLFLCaneVet 11:43 PM GMT am 25. September 2010    
Quoting utilaeastwind:
Here are some pictures from Utila, Honduras taken this morning. The strong seas lasted about two hours.

Enough!





http://www.utilaeastwind.com/Utilaeastwind_TSMATTHEW45.jpg


Perfect illustration why building right on the ocean is a BAD idea.
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