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Dangerous Tropical Storm Irene headed for the Dominican Republic
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 02:38 PM GMT am 21. August 2011 +48
Tropical Storm Irene roared into life last night, transitioning from a tropical wave to a 50 mph tropical storm in just a few short hours. Irene is getting organized quickly, and has the potential to become a hurricane by Monday morning. All interests in the Dominican Republic, Haiti, Cuba, the Bahamas, and South Florida should prepare for the arrival of this dangerous storm. An Air Force hurricane hunter aircraft in the storm found the strongest winds near 18°N latitude to the north of Irene's center at 8am this morning. After passing through the center, the plane returned to the area of strongest winds two hours later, and found that flight level winds at 5,000 feet had increased by about 5 - 8 mph. However, the pressure in the latest center fix taken at 10am EDT remained the same as two hours previously, 1007 mb, and the plane noted that Irene's center was not circular, signs that the storm still has some work to do before serious intensification can begin. Visible satellite loops and radar out of Martinique show the storm has rapidly organized this morning, with well-developed spiral bands forming and a large area of intense thunderstorms to the north of the center. Irene has shrugged off the dry air that was bothering it yesterday, and wind shear has fallen to the low range, 5 - 10 knots, as analyzed by the University of Wisconsin CIMSS group. Torrential rains and strong gusty winds are affecting the northern Lesser Antilles this morning. A wind gust of 41 mph was recorded at St. Eustatius at 8am local time.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Irene.

Track forecast for Irene
The computer models are in agreement that Irene will pass just south of Puerto Rico tonight, then hit the south coast of Hispaniola in the Dominican Republic or Haiti on Monday afternoon. Irene should then emerge into the channel between Haiti and Cuba on Tuesday afternoon, when the storm will have 12 or so hours over water before having to contend with Cuba. A trough of low pressure is expected to move across the Eastern U.S. on Wednesday and Thursday, turning Irene to the northwest and north by Thursday. The timing and strength of this trough varies considerably from model to model, and will be critical in determining where and when Irene will turn to the north. Irene's strength will also matter--a stronger Irene is more likely to turn northward earlier. The most likely path for Irene is a track just east of the Florida Peninsula and into Georgia, South Carolina, or North Carolina by next weekend, but a landfall near Miami then directly up the Florida Peninsula is also a reasonable solution--like Tropical Storm Fay of 2008 did. Fay formed just off the coast of Puerto Rico, and was never quite able to get organized enough to become a hurricane, due to passage over Hispaniola and Cuba. Fay topped out as a strong tropical storm with 70 mph winds, and did over $500 million in damage in the U.S., mostly due to flooding rains in Florida that accumulated to over 25 inches in a few areas. Fay also dumped heavy rains on Hispaniola, triggering flooding that claimed eight lives.


Figure 2. Track of Tropical Storm Fay of 2008.

Intensity forecast for Irene
Irene is embedded in a large envelope of moisture now, and wind shear will remain low, 5 - 10 knots, for the next five days. With water temperatures very warm, 28 - 30°C, these conditions should allow for intensification except when land is interfering. Irene's current appearance on satellite loops gives me the impression of a storm that is not fooling around, and I expect Irene will be a hurricane before hitting Hispaniola on Monday. Passage over Hispaniola will not destroy Irene, since it is a fairly large storm. Once the storm finishes with Hispaniola, it will have to deal with Cuba, which will keep Irene from intensifying significantly. Once Irene pops off the coast of Cuba Wednesday or Thursday into the Florida Straits, Irene will likely be a tropical storm. If the storm then has at least a day over water before hitting land, it will likely become a hurricane again, and could become a major hurricane if it ends up missing South Florida and moving over the warm waters on either side of the Florida Peninsula.

Harvey hits Belize
Tropical Storm Harvey made landfall at 2pm EDT on Saturday near Dangriga Town, Belize, as a tropical storm with 60 mph winds. Harvey continues to dump very heavy rains on southern Mexico, but dissipation is expected tonight as the storm pushes inland. Harvey was a small storm, and the strongest winds were confined to a short stretch of coast near where the center came ashore. Winds at Belize City, Belize on Saturday topped out at 15 mph.


Figure 3. Radar image of Harvey taken at 11:30am EDT on Saturday, August 20, 2011, a few hours before landfall in Belize. A small closed eye is visible just south of the offshore islands of Belize. Image credit: Belize National Meteorological Service.

Invest 98L northwest of the Cape Verde Islands
A tropical wave few hundred miles northwest of the Cape Verde Islands off the coast of Africa, Invest 98L, has become disorganized and lost most of its heavy thunderstorms. The disturbance is moving over colder waters and encountering drier air, and NHC is giving 98L only a 10% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Tuesday. The latest set of model runs keep 98L well out to sea away from any land areas over the next five days.

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651. AllStar17 04:20 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Irene would have to continue a heading of 291 degrees if it wants to graze Hispaniola.
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652. CCSoFLA79 04:20 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Hello all! I enjoy reading all your posts and they are very helpful! So thank you.
My questions is. I live in Fort Lauderdale. Is this something I need to start preparing for? I have seen some chatter saying it is going up the coast. I know it is too early to tell but it just scares the bagebeez outa me.
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653. Nolehead 04:20 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
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kinda wondering about that GFDL track...this could get intersting
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654. Tazmanian 04:20 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
even if this stays off the coast of FL by 1mile or so there is still going too be a lot of wind damge and storm sure damge and any thing us i can think off
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655. NCHurricane2009 04:20 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting WeatherNerdPR:

She's coming Pat.


Radar ominous for PR...center headed straight there....

...this radar also shows a messy center fundamentally...Irene NOT on her way to hurricane status right now...and if she stays like this through PR and Hispaniola...will be disrupted and weak for a while and do something more like GFDL....
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656. SavannahStorm 04:21 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
We're at the holy crap stage.



I'm gonna need some new Levi's...


This is not good.
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657. barotropic 04:21 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting cloudburst2011:
this is set for florida ...the cone will not deviate one time until irene comes ashore on the fla coast...this could be a potential dangerous situation for fla...irene could be approaching fla as a strong cat 2 or a weak cat 3....


Nope...not this time for Fla IMO...cone shifting this eve....eastward and Bahamas in big trouble, we will see. obviously to soon to bank on anything.
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658. Tazmanian 04:21 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
We're at the holy crap stage.





poof GA
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659. TropicalAnalystwx13 04:21 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
uh_oh

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660. Grothar 04:21 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting atmoaggie:
Well, from NOLA and, umm, I hold a degree on the subject.

It IS going to Florida, though it may miss to the east.

Almost certain that it will not enter the gulf.

Intensity is highly dependent on the time spent over land and the nature of that land (mountains, etc.). Is possible that a strong TS or cat 1 shows up in FL, or a cat 3 . Just my opinion, but stronger favors a more eastern track (very bad for the Bahamas) as that would mean a miss on most of the mountainous terrain in Hispaniola. Atmospheric conditions and ocean heat content are favorable.

I wish we could nail it down better right now.

As to whom to pay attention to, Levi is a good one, Drakoen knows his stuff, WxLogic is adept and no wishcaster, Dakster, P451, Grothar, scottsvb (with credentials, I think), MiamiHurricane09, and many others I am forgetting at the moment.

Ultimately, pay close attention to the NHC statements and your local NWS office. Their mission is specifically to give you what you need to make decisions in the preservation of life and property. You'll only get a few hours lead on what they will say here, without the wild fluctuations and chaff.



:)
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661. Bluestorm5 04:21 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
984 mb storm toward Charleston, SC... 114 hr
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662. muddertracker 04:21 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting AussieStorm:

There would be no humor in a Storm of any grade hitting Haiti. Tents and strong wind and rain do not hold up well. I wish and pray to GOD that Irene does miss Haiti. Her people are barely surviving let alone able to cope what could be heading there way.


I wonder if they even know what's out there...how are communications there? Truly, truly sad. Blessings to those in those tents!
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663. AussieStorm 04:21 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting rkay1:
For my FL bloggers out there, you better save yourself an image of the current forecast cone cause its about to change!  It was fun while it lasted, no?  GA, NC, SC, --We pass the buck to you!

Don't speak to soon my friend, This does not show Irene missing Fl. Weather is not an exact science, things can and will change. Just be prepared.

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664. wolftribe2009 04:21 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
It stalled over the Gulf Stream...


Could I get the link to that TA? Oh and that is just...OUCH!
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666. atmoaggie 04:22 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
As of 12 UTC, the historical analogs, based on track thus far and current position, are the following.



And, given the synoptic setup, the 2 western tracks of yesteryear shown above can be discounted entirely.
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667. divdog 04:22 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting cloudburst2011:
this is set for florida ...the cone will not deviate one time until irene comes ashore on the fla coast...this could be a potential dangerous situation for fla...irene could be approaching fla as a strong cat 2 or a weak cat 3....
5 day cone will change with an estimated 250 mile plus error on a 5 day cone
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668. UpperLevelLOL 04:22 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
We're at the holy crap stage.



Is that a 975 mb or 915?
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669. TropicalAnalystwx13 04:22 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Sorry Georgia...I didn't wish it on you...

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670. 7544 04:22 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
its one run peeps wait for the next one models are getting confuse right now stay tuned
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671. CaicosRetiredSailor 04:22 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
...Still at. 9-0-0
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672. AussieStorm 04:23 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting muddertracker:


I wonder if they even know what's out there...how are communications there? Truly, truly sad. Blessings to those in those tents!

If i was there, I wouldn't want to know Irene was coming, It would set off mass panic which could be worse.
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673. islander101010 04:23 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting AussieStorm:

There would be no humor in a Storm of any grade hitting Haiti. Tents and strong wind and rain do not hold up well. I wish and pray to GOD that Irene does miss Haiti. Her people are barely surviving let alone able to cope what could be heading there way.
happens too often on this island hope she stays south of that place sorry i disagree with dr masters on comparing this one to fay fays the baby in the family then
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674. chrisdscane 04:23 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting CCSoFLA79:
Hello all! I enjoy reading all your posts and they are very helpful! So thank you.
My questions is. I live in Fort Lauderdale. Is this something I need to start preparing for? I have seen some chatter saying it is going up the coast. I know it is too early to tell but it just scares the bagebeez outa me.




dispite what all the GA SC and NC wishcasters say who havent had a storm in like 5 yrs it will be very hard for this system not make a landfall in southflorida all the models that are being liked have a tendency to be right biased
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675. TaylorSelseth 04:23 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
I think Irene will barely miss Hispanola, which is BAD NEWS for the Carolinas. :-(
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677. Patrap 04:23 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
WeatherNerdPR

Best make ready for Cat-1 conditions there.

Shes gonna roll thru after dark.

Take advantage of the Daylight to rush them preps and Good Luck.
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678. Bluestorm5 04:24 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Heading directly for Charleston at 126

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679. Gorty 04:24 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Last time posting this (since I don't want to be a troll or what not)

Link

Invest 98L and the next threat
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680. TropicalAnalystwx13 04:24 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
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681. BahaHurican 04:24 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Afternoon everybody, and I am so disappointed to see only 675 comments in the last two hours... lol

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682. Contrarian 04:24 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
...and once again the models give out ridiculous and wildly fluctuating values.

These were the predictions last night.

ships- 105 in 48h, 65 in 120h
gfdl- 100 in 48h- 135 in 120h
ivcn-130 in 130h
hwrf-75 for a while, 120 in 132h

Now, in 12 hours, the models have COMPLETELY changed, and still contradict each other.

Cue the denial about the uselessness of the models in 3, 2, 1....

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683. nigel20 04:24 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Sorry Georgia...I didn't wish it on you...


Is that a developing storm in the central Atlantic?
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685. connie1976 04:25 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
...so....I'm confused....South Florida is now out of it? Why does the nhc still have us in the cone then? will they change it at 5?
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687. PRweathercenter 04:25 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
Dvorak more centered every frame lately.


2km Storm Relative IR Imagery with BD Enhancement Curve

Pat do you see this as a hurricane before PR?
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688. presslord 04:25 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting muddertracker:


I wonder if they even know what's out there...how are communications there? Truly, truly sad. Blessings to those in those tents!


communication within the camps is primarily through rumor...which will only serve to exacerbate worry, panic, etc....on the very best day, it's a bleak situation...at times like this, it becomes unimaginable for us comfortable Americans...
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689. chrisdscane 04:25 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
and BTW she will not go north of hispaniola she would have to go on a 291 heading not going to happen
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690. WeatherNerdPR 04:25 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting NCHurricane2009:


Radar ominous for PR...center headed straight there....

...this radar also shows a messy center fundamentally...Irene NOT on her way to hurricane status right now...and if she stays like this through PR and Hispaniola...will be disrupted and weak for a while and do something more like GFDL....

Irene is just getting into the radar's view, which explains why it's center looks messy. When it gets closer, Irene's true colors will be unveiled.
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691. AussieStorm 04:25 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting rkay1:
This is an outdated cone and does not reflect the new East sided models.  I believe you can expect most of SFL to be out of the cone and to be shifted way north/east on the new update.


Show me the updated cone you have seen?
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692. shawn26 04:25 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
I couldn't agree more.
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693. sullivanweather 04:26 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Believe it or not, a storm stalling over the Gulf Stream off the coast would tend to weaken it. There's plenty of dry air over towards the Southern Appalachians in all the model runs by the time the storm gets there so it would be likely that the storm would ingest this dry continental air being stalled so close to the US mainland.

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695. TropicalAnalystwx13 04:26 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
For the people who have asked me questions..

Here is the link to the site I use.

Link

To those asking for intensity, 970s mb. and 910s mb.
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696. FSUstormnut 04:26 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
5pm cone shift.. expect the "ts" dot the NHC has to move up and off the coast slightly.  The NHC never makes a "major" shift.  I bet we will see a "h" icon just off the florida coast.  however, this can certainly change back after the next set of model runs.
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697. newportrinative 04:26 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting connie1976:
...so....I'm confused....South Florida is now out of it? Why does the nhc still have us in the cone then? will they change it at 5?


Bloggers are just guesses of future tracks based on model runs. We need to wait and see...
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699. presslord 04:26 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
...and us comfortable Canadians...and Austrailians...etc.
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700. TropicalAnalystwx13 04:26 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
Quoting sullivanweather:
Believe it or not, a storm stalling over the Gulf Stream off the coast would tend to weaken it. There's plenty of dry air over towards the Southern Appalachians in all the model runs by the time the storm gets there so it would be likely that the storm would ingest this dry continental air being stalled so close to the US mainland.



Definitely not true.
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701. lennit 04:26 PM GMT am 21. August 2011    
ok here ya go latest recon shows due west movement
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