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Dangerous Tropical Storm Irene headed for the Dominican Republic
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 02:38 PM GMT am 21. August 2011 +48
Tropical Storm Irene roared into life last night, transitioning from a tropical wave to a 50 mph tropical storm in just a few short hours. Irene is getting organized quickly, and has the potential to become a hurricane by Monday morning. All interests in the Dominican Republic, Haiti, Cuba, the Bahamas, and South Florida should prepare for the arrival of this dangerous storm. An Air Force hurricane hunter aircraft in the storm found the strongest winds near 18°N latitude to the north of Irene's center at 8am this morning. After passing through the center, the plane returned to the area of strongest winds two hours later, and found that flight level winds at 5,000 feet had increased by about 5 - 8 mph. However, the pressure in the latest center fix taken at 10am EDT remained the same as two hours previously, 1007 mb, and the plane noted that Irene's center was not circular, signs that the storm still has some work to do before serious intensification can begin. Visible satellite loops and radar out of Martinique show the storm has rapidly organized this morning, with well-developed spiral bands forming and a large area of intense thunderstorms to the north of the center. Irene has shrugged off the dry air that was bothering it yesterday, and wind shear has fallen to the low range, 5 - 10 knots, as analyzed by the University of Wisconsin CIMSS group. Torrential rains and strong gusty winds are affecting the northern Lesser Antilles this morning. A wind gust of 41 mph was recorded at St. Eustatius at 8am local time.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Irene.

Track forecast for Irene
The computer models are in agreement that Irene will pass just south of Puerto Rico tonight, then hit the south coast of Hispaniola in the Dominican Republic or Haiti on Monday afternoon. Irene should then emerge into the channel between Haiti and Cuba on Tuesday afternoon, when the storm will have 12 or so hours over water before having to contend with Cuba. A trough of low pressure is expected to move across the Eastern U.S. on Wednesday and Thursday, turning Irene to the northwest and north by Thursday. The timing and strength of this trough varies considerably from model to model, and will be critical in determining where and when Irene will turn to the north. Irene's strength will also matter--a stronger Irene is more likely to turn northward earlier. The most likely path for Irene is a track just east of the Florida Peninsula and into Georgia, South Carolina, or North Carolina by next weekend, but a landfall near Miami then directly up the Florida Peninsula is also a reasonable solution--like Tropical Storm Fay of 2008 did. Fay formed just off the coast of Puerto Rico, and was never quite able to get organized enough to become a hurricane, due to passage over Hispaniola and Cuba. Fay topped out as a strong tropical storm with 70 mph winds, and did over $500 million in damage in the U.S., mostly due to flooding rains in Florida that accumulated to over 25 inches in a few areas. Fay also dumped heavy rains on Hispaniola, triggering flooding that claimed eight lives.


Figure 2. Track of Tropical Storm Fay of 2008.

Intensity forecast for Irene
Irene is embedded in a large envelope of moisture now, and wind shear will remain low, 5 - 10 knots, for the next five days. With water temperatures very warm, 28 - 30°C, these conditions should allow for intensification except when land is interfering. Irene's current appearance on satellite loops gives me the impression of a storm that is not fooling around, and I expect Irene will be a hurricane before hitting Hispaniola on Monday. Passage over Hispaniola will not destroy Irene, since it is a fairly large storm. Once the storm finishes with Hispaniola, it will have to deal with Cuba, which will keep Irene from intensifying significantly. Once Irene pops off the coast of Cuba Wednesday or Thursday into the Florida Straits, Irene will likely be a tropical storm. If the storm then has at least a day over water before hitting land, it will likely become a hurricane again, and could become a major hurricane if it ends up missing South Florida and moving over the warm waters on either side of the Florida Peninsula.

Harvey hits Belize
Tropical Storm Harvey made landfall at 2pm EDT on Saturday near Dangriga Town, Belize, as a tropical storm with 60 mph winds. Harvey continues to dump very heavy rains on southern Mexico, but dissipation is expected tonight as the storm pushes inland. Harvey was a small storm, and the strongest winds were confined to a short stretch of coast near where the center came ashore. Winds at Belize City, Belize on Saturday topped out at 15 mph.


Figure 3. Radar image of Harvey taken at 11:30am EDT on Saturday, August 20, 2011, a few hours before landfall in Belize. A small closed eye is visible just south of the offshore islands of Belize. Image credit: Belize National Meteorological Service.

Invest 98L northwest of the Cape Verde Islands
A tropical wave few hundred miles northwest of the Cape Verde Islands off the coast of Africa, Invest 98L, has become disorganized and lost most of its heavy thunderstorms. The disturbance is moving over colder waters and encountering drier air, and NHC is giving 98L only a 10% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Tuesday. The latest set of model runs keep 98L well out to sea away from any land areas over the next five days.

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7601. Orcasystems 01:41 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
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7603. weatherguy03 01:42 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting scott39:
Good video Bob Thanks, What are your thoughts on Irene somewhat creating her own enviroment as a major hurricane in relation to making the ridge stronger?


Good point. "Pumping the Ridge!"..Just had to say it!..LOL Yes, these stronger Hurricanes can do that, we would just have to see how strong she gets. She would have to be a Major for something like that to happen. I don't believe it affects them as much as some may think, but when you have a storm moving parallel to the coast like Irene will be doing 50 or 100 miles could make a big difference. We will have to watch for that.
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7604. NOLALawyer 01:42 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting sunlinepr:
Waiting for Levi's analysis... Troff in Conus into the Gom will pick her up?

Where is the weakness where she will move to?


Me too. He is the EF Hutton of Wunderground.
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7605. NJ2S 01:42 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
What about points north of North Carolina ..... the shift in the models is not looking good for VA MD DE NJ NY ..... Anythoughts about that... Irene maybe impacting the most unprepared population on the east coast
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7606. BobinTampa 01:43 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

I agree with you Jed.


I agree with your agreement. I don't think Florida ends up with a hell of a lot other than some high surf. I have a feeling it might only graze the SC coast.
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7607. Jedkins01 01:44 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Guys people in Florida should still closely watch Irene, but more and more data supports that Irene will not be a Florida storm at all. Heck, you can even see how Irene is already turning more north already ahead of forecast.

This is why I told people yesterday that it was ridiculously too early to say Irene was an extremely dangerous threat to Florida. lol
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7608. scott39 01:44 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Anyone making comments that Irene WILL NOT hit Fl. just shows hom much they know about tracking a TC? Those flipid comments are annoying.
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7609. overwash12 01:44 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

In my opinion, she's not going to Florida. She'll stay at least a hundred miles off the East Coast of FL. Not saying that Florida should not be prepared and are out of the woods, but I think this will be a Savanah GA, to Myrtle Beach, SC impact, very likely major hurricane strength. However, the effects of Irene will be felt through the entire state of FL up through at least the Mid-Atlantic states.

I think the GFS and other models will begin to shift back south and west as the high builds in, suggesting that lowland coastal GA/SC impact. Storm surge will be the greatest threat in these regions, especially with her massive size.
Thanks, I guess I need to tune up the old chainsaw!LOL
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7610. Jax82 01:44 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Just a little FYI, SSTs in the bahamas are the warmest in the entire basin.

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7611. MahFL 01:45 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
The IR blob seems to be moving due west though.....
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7614. ElConando 01:45 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:
HPC Preliminary Extended Forecast Discussion

Excerpt:


ALTHOUGH INTERACTIONS WITH A COUPLE SHORTWAVES MOVING THROUGH THE NORTHERN TIER OF THE COUNTRY
COMPLICATE THE FORECAST LATER IN THE MEDIUM RANGE PERIOD...IRENE
SHOULD ROUND THE WESTERN PERIPHERY OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE ACROSS
THE WESTERN SUBTROPICAL ATLANTIC ALONG A PARABOLIC TRACK. THE
GUIDANCE /IN THIS CASE THE 06Z GFS AND 00Z ECMWF/ HAS BEEN PRONE
TO SENDING SYSTEMS TRACKING NEAR THE EAST COAST INLAND INTO THE
NORTHEAST THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS DUE TO PREMATURE PHASING OF
TROPICAL CYCLONES WITH SYSTEMS IN THE WESTERLIES...WHICH HAS NOT
VERIFIED SINCE HURRICANE ISABEL IN 2003...SO LITTLE WEIGHT WAS
PLACED UPON THEIR SOLUTIONS. PER THE NHC TRACK
FORECAST...MODERATE TO HEAVY RAINS SHOULD INITIALLY FORM ALONG A
DEVELOPING COASTAL FRONT NEAR THE SOUTHEAST COAST WHICH BECOMES
REINFORCED BY A FRONT DROPPING IN FROM THE WESTERLIES. THE
CYCLONE IS THEN EXPECTED TO MOVE ALONG THE COAST OF THE CAROLINAS
OFFSHORE THE NORTHEAST JUST INSIDE THE 40N/70W BENCHMARK NEXT
MONDAY.


When I saw the models this morning I decided to take a look at this, seems they are taking the eastern solution models with little confidence at least in the shorter term.
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7615. weatherb0y 01:45 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting scott39:
Anyone making comments that Irene WILL NOT hit Fl. just shows hom much they know about tracking a TC? Those flipid comments are annoying.
I concur...
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7616. sunlinepr 01:45 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
I had no avocado's in my tree since Jean... I just went to the backyard and I've got 32 wind blown avocado's...
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7617. DookiePBC 01:46 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Don't discount the impact of high surf on Florida...have you seen all the jellyfish in the water lately...won't be able to walk on the beach for weeks.

Just my hunch but I think the track is just gonna keep moving further and further east, until about 24-48 hours from now when Florida is completely out of the cone. Still keeping an eye on it though.
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7618. reedzone 01:46 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Just because Irene is moving more north doesn't mean she can't turn west again due to the strengthening ridge to the north. It's not time to call Florida off the hook. We will know more info by tomorrow. I am checking my generator out today and buying packs of water.
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7619. BobinTampa 01:46 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting scott39:
Anyone making comments that Irene WILL NOT hit Fl. just shows hom much they know about tracking a TC? Those flipid comments are annoying.


computer models and the NHC must also really annoy you then.
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7620. scott39 01:47 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting BobinTampa:


computer models and the NHC must also really annoy you then.
Know just the comments!
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7621. ElConando 01:47 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting MahFL:
The IR blob seems to be moving due west though.....


Radar and microwave scans of the system are two of the few ways tell you more or less where it is going.
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7622. weatherguy03 01:47 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Until the UKMET and GFDL models move with the rest of the model consensus you will not see the NHC shift too far East with its track, thus we cannot take Florida out of the cone. The last two NHC track still had them to the West of the consensus models out of respect for those two models.
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7623. mcmurray02 01:47 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting NJ2S:
What about points north of North Carolina ..... the shift in the models is not looking good for VA MD DE NJ NY ..... Anythoughts about that... Irene maybe impacting the most unprepared population on the east coast


I believe that Irene will make landfall in SC/NC coast, based off of the models. However, if it should miss the coast, and head farther east than expected, I don't see this as being a threat to the upper east coast/New England area.
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7626. ncstorm 01:48 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Tweet from Big Joe

BigJoeBastardi Joe Bastardi
Track now much closer to Floyd in 1999.. 1999,1954 was in preseason hurricane analog package issued by my company in May
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7627. scott39 01:48 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting scott39:
Know just the comments!
No-- lol
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7628. Skyepony (Mod) 01:48 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Climo has been beating the models this year. Looking at climo..this most liking isn't staying way offshore.

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7629. 7544 01:48 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
morning all 80mph looks like shes going more west at this hour
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7630. weatherguy03 01:49 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
To me decision day for Florida is tomorrow. With the more Hurricane Hunter data we are feeding into these models we should have more of a consensus by then. But again I still believe the major threat with Irene will be further up the Southeast Coast from Savannah, GA to Wilmington, NC. as of my forecast today.
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7631. Ryuujin 01:49 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
MississippiWx,

So, my call of Irene heading N of Hispanola seems to be panning out. What do you think of the impact of that Shortwave trough on her movement? Or will the High build back in and steer her far more west?
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7632. PrivateIdaho 01:50 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting sunlinepr:
I had no avocado's in my tree since Jean... I just went to the backyard and I've got 32 wind blown avocado's...


They blew in from St Croix....;^)
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7634. SpicyAngel1072 01:50 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting reedzone:
Just because Irene is moving more north doesn't mean she can't turn west again due to the strengthening ridge to the north. It's not time to call Florida off the hook. We will know more info by tomorrow. I am checking my generator out today and buying packs of water.


Are you in Florida Reed?
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7635. Jedkins01 01:50 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting cat5hurricane:

I agree with you Jed.


At least you're living and Florida and not dying in pain for hurricanes to hit Florida. Thanks for not getting heart broken because Irene will most likely miss Tampa Bay ;)


I live in the Tampa Bay area, every freaking time a hurricane threatens, people either think some voodoo magic or some dome crap like that keeps them away, or everyone just runs around panicking

"ZOMG LIKE OH CRAP GUYS TAMPA IS OVERDOOOOO THIS ONE WILL DEFINTIELY BE ARE STROM I CAN FEEL IT!"



lolol
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7637. recordfinder 01:50 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Looks to me that the jog to the NW was due to Irene wrapping around the mountainous terrain on the west side of PR. Se will continue W-WNW now.
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7639. jbplefty 01:51 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
When do you think any watches or warnings will be posted for Florida?
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7640. weatherguy03 01:51 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting cloudburst2011:




come on bob its a given if irene misses the his and haiti she becomes a major hurricane...still a chance of RI in the central bahamas also....bob get on the ball..


I hear ya and I expressed that in my blog today. But intensity forecasting is where we fail most times and we really wont know how strong she may get until she clears the Hispaniola coast. But yes the ingredients are there for a Major.
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7641. Patrap 01:51 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
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7642. TerraNova 01:51 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Morning!

For those of you wondering what happened to the San Juan radar:

FTMJUA
MESSAGE DATE: AUG 22 2011 03:26:00
THE FAA SAN JUAN WSR-88D DOPPLER WEATHER RADAR (TJUA) HAS GONE
DOWN...MOSTLY LIKELY DUE TO A LOSS OF POWER AT THE CAYEY RADAR
SITE...AS RAIN BANDS ASSOCIATED WITH TROPICAL STORM IRENE MOVED
ACROSS THAT AREA. WE ARE UNABLE TO RESTART THE RADAR AT THIS TIME
AND FAA AOCC HAS BEEN NOTIFIED. RESTORATION TIME IS UNKNOWN.
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7643. BobinTampa 01:52 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting P451:
Good Morning.

Irene continued her steady WNW movement throughout the night.

She is now NW of PR and she will intensify.








Looks due west to me! :)
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7644. marknmelb 01:52 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
While I really don't like it I think she takes a track similar to David in 79. Which sux for me :(
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7646. reedzone 01:52 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
I believe the center of Irene is actually a bit south of where the NHC has it.. 18.7N .. around there.
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7647. 900MB 01:52 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting NJ2S:
What about points north of North Carolina ..... the shift in the models is not looking good for VA MD DE NJ NY ..... Anythoughts about that... Irene maybe impacting the most unprepared population on the east coast


Growing more concerned for the NorthEast. Just a Cat 2 would devastate us.
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7648. jeffs713 01:52 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting scott39:
Anyone making comments that Irene WILL NOT hit Fl. just shows hom much they know about tracking a TC? Those flipid comments are annoying.


Wishing a storm to hit you is a pretty sad thing. Aren't you supposed to be in school?
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7649. interstatelover7165 01:52 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
What's the next radar site to the TDWR?
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7650. srada 01:52 PM GMT am 22. August 2011    
Quoting weatherguy03:
To me decision day for Florida is tomorrow. With the more Hurricane Hunter data we are feeding into these models we should have more of a consensus by then. But again I still believe the major threat with Irene will be further up the Southeast Coast from Savannah, GA to Wilmington, NC. as of my forecast today.


With the ECWMF calling for landfall near Wilmington, I am watching this storm path every chance I get.
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