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Hurricane Irene continues to become better organized, takes aim at Bahamas
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 09:12 PM GMT am 22. August 2011 +36
Hurricane Irene remains a category 1 on the Saffir Simpson hurricane wind scale, and continues to be a U.S. landfall threat for anywhere from southern Florida to North Carolina. In the 5pm EDT update from the National Hurricane Center, Irene had maximum sustained winds of 80 mph. Irene is moving west-northwest at 13 mph along the northern Hispaniola coastline. Estimates from radar suggest Puerto Rico has seen anywhere from 1 to 5 inches of rain from Irene so far, with the heaviest rain probably being enhanced by topography. Satellite imagery shows a new burst of intense thunderstorm activity began near the center of the hurricane this afternoon, and despite land interaction, Irene continues to become larger and better organized, with tropical storm-force (39 mph) winds extending 160 miles away from the center on the northeast side of the hurricane. The latest Hurricane Hunter mission found maximum sustained winds just above 80 mph, with a minimum central pressure of 988 millibars. The strongest winds continue to be found on the north side of the storm. Another Hurricane Hunter mission is scheduled for this evening, and a NOAA Gulfstream is on its way to Irene as I type.


Figure 1. True-color image of Hurricane Irene taken at 11:20am EDT Monday August 22, 2011, shortly after Irene moved off the coast of Puerto Rico. At the time, Irene was a Category 1 hurricane with 80 mph winds. Image credit: NASA.

Track forecast for Irene
The models agree that the center of Irene will stay north of Hispaniola, which will allow the storm to continue to organize. The question that remains is how the trough of low pressure, which is expected to move across the Eastern U.S. on Wednesday and Thursday, will affect Hurricane Irene. The timing and strength of this trough, as well as the intensity of the hurricane, will determine just how quick Irene will turn away from the U.S. coast, if at all. This afternoon, the GFDL has finally started to inch its forecast track to the east, with a landfall in southern Florida. Both the HWRF and the UKMET models are suggesting a landfall in South Carolina, and the ECMWF and the GFS are forecasting a brush with the Outer Banks of North Carolina. The official forecast from the National Hurricane Center is a track north of Hispaniola over the next 24 hours, and through the Bahamas Wednesday and Thursday. While the center of the Hurricane Center's cone of uncertainty has Irene making landfall near the North Carolina/South Carolina border, it's important to note that the error in 4 and 5 day track forecasts remains high—around 200 miles in either direction. The official track has nudged a bit east since this morning, which reduces the threat to southern Florida, but increases the threat to the Carolinas.

Intensity forecast for Irene
The environment around Hurricane Irene remains moist, and wind shear is expected to remain relatively low (5 to 15 knots) along its forecast path over the next 5 days. Sea surface temperatures are certainly warm enough (29-30°C) to support intensification to a major hurricane (category 3+). Irene is still disorganized on its south side due to land interaction and dry air, but recent satellite imagery suggests increasing outflow at high levels to the south of the center, which is necessary for the hurricane to intensify. Both the GFS and the ECMWF are forecasting Irene to develop into a very large and intense hurricane. The National Hurricane Center expects Irene to intensify to a category 2 hurricane tomorrow evening as it moves away from Hispaniola. Beyond that, Irene will most likely intensify into a category 3 major hurricane with maximum sustained winds around 110 mph. Like Jeff said this morning, however, Irene could just as easily remain a category 2, or even reach category 4 wind speeds. In any case, Irene will be a powerful hurricane and a serious threat to the Bahamas and the East Coast of the United States.

Angela
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2751. lennit 03:09 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
it looks like GFDL has the right idea. it showed this weaking arounf DR.. and i believe the frictional effects of DR are holding to a more W-WNW track
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2752. tpabarb 03:09 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
I'm bailing on Wilmington and going to Charlotte. I need to check my renter's insurance policy. Ugh.
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2753. WhereIsTheStorm 03:09 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    

Quoting TheMom:
FEMA just announced they will not be giving out ice in areas that lost power and to get water you will have to prove you can't afford to buy it.
Fine - but are they going to be selling it; because you can't find any anywhere else after a storm.
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2754. HurricaneDean07 03:09 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Well Recon Heading home...
Good Night Everyone.
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2755. MiamiHurricanes09 03:09 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Here it comes...warm spot evident.

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2756. yesterway 03:09 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting rchira1:
Bermuda High filling back in, in a hurry...


***ALERT***


This storm is still heading towards south florida going wnw. Untill we see it start movin nw/n south florida is still the target.


REMEMBER Hurricane Andrew? Andrew was coming sraight towards south florida. All of the models and weathermen all said that andrew was supposed to make that nw/n turn. Then the next morning all of south florida went into panic cause the storm missed the turn that it was supposed to take due to the high built back in/ it was stronger. So again south florida is not in the clear yet until we see that turn take place.


***What are your thoughts on this***








Burp...
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2757. BahaHurican 03:09 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting TCIGolfer:
Hey Kman,

Me thinks I am in for a long day and night tomorrow!!

Any advice??? I got my rum ready!!!!
Ah, I knew there was somebody else in TCI...

Ya'll stay safe down there... and let us know how u r faring up here...

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2758. SCwannabe 03:09 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting tiggeriffic:
wow...just heard on the news that women over 30 wks pregnant were called today to tell them that if Irene is to hit close to Charleston, that they are to check into the hospital until the storm is over to make sure that they are safe during the hurricane...


Great...I work in the NICU.
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2760. charlottefl 03:10 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting LADobeLady:


Everyone should always take personal responsibility for themselves and their families, and not depend on FEMA and the government to provide anything. Didn't people pay attention after Katrina?


I don't know whether it's so much of a can't afford to buy it issue as it is, if there's no power, there's nowhere to make it. Therefore if no one brings it in, how do people get it. I'm sure most people would be happy to pay for ice after a bad storm. I know I would have after Charley. Luckily, we didn't have to tho.
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2762. MississippiWx 03:10 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Here it comes...warm spot evident.



Hot towers are firing around it again.
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2763. ncstorm 03:10 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting TheMom:
FEMA just announced they will not be giving out ice in areas that lost power and to get water you will have to prove you can't afford to buy it.


where did you get that info..I got this off their page

At all times, FEMA maintains commodities, including millions of liters of water, millions of meals and hundreds of thousands of blankets, strategically located at distribution centers throughout the United States and its territories. In Puerto Rico, for example, FEMA has more than 200,000 liters of water, more than 400,000 meals, and more than 1,400 cots and blankets, that could be used, if needed, to help with response and recovery efforts.
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2764. Levi32 03:10 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Irene is about to enter the area where the southwesterly inflow into her eye will start coming off of the mountains of Hispaniola. Inflow coming down the mountain slopes warms and dries, and that drier, stable air then flows directly into the core of the storm, disrupting convective processes. Irene will likely continue to struggle with significant intensification until she is clear of this area.
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2765. HurricaneHunterJoe 03:10 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting Patrap:


center getting very close to land,better hope that was a jog,or......... she cuts across hisp and gores into florida as a 70 mph tropical storm as forecast 10days ago???????? lolololol
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2766. ecflweatherfan 03:10 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting Patrap:


Excellent,,those later runs will Give us a good track tomorrow.

Then folks will shift gears into a "OMG" moment.



Yeah, that is what I was illustrating to a fellow blogger earlier. That these findings would not be incorporated into the forecast track until 5am advisory.
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2767. CosmicEvents 03:11 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting sullivanweather:


Am I remiss to say 11?
No, you're right.
I imagine when it comes in it'll be posted here by somebody.
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2768. sunlinepr 03:11 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
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2770. yoboi 03:11 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
i have been through 7 hurricanes here in la anything over cat 2 is not fun if they tell you to evacuate listen to them always better to prepare for the worst and hope for the best...........
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2771. yesterway 03:11 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting kmanislander:


Most structures there are very strong but there is no hiding from the water. A CAT 4 will carry seriously high surge, maybe 25 feet in places as the surge rides on top of the waves and the water around those islands is fairly shallow allowing for the water to pile up.



Of course. Are you in the Bahamas now? If you are what are you plans?
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2773. KennyNebraska 03:11 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting nofailsafe:
Doomcon 2 by the way.


Current DOOMcon Status - ELEVATED

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2775. Methurricanes 03:12 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
I fear another Hurricane Bob in the Near future, only larger.
Also Kman 280 is WNW, 270 is West.
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2776. TCIGolfer 03:12 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Kman or CRS,

Can you answer a stupid question for me. IF the hurricane force winds extend out 45 miles and the NE quadrant is the worst part of the storm which we should get hit with if it passes south and west of us within 43 miles now (as per storm carib). How long will the hurricane force winds last if it continues travelling at its same speed (12 MPH) is my math correct that it could last 7.5 hours???
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2777. tiggeriffic 03:12 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting charlottefl:


I don't know whether it's so much of a can't afford to buy it issue as it is, if there's no power, there's nowhere to make it. Therefore if no one brings it in, how do people get it. I'm sure most people would be happy to pay for ice after a bad storm. I know I would have after Charley. Luckily, we didn't have to tho.


i have been filling empty juice jugs, soda bottles, etc with water all day and putting them in my freezer, will continue to do so until this is over... keeps my stuff from spoiling and when it does melt, we have extra water...just saying...people do have time to prepare if they do it before they are told to evacuate
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2779. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 03:12 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
convective refire commences just before or just after midnight est

the witching hour
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2780. stormpetrol 03:13 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting yesterway:


Now why would you say that?


I would just say if I was living in Florida, I wouldn't turn my back on Irene just yet!
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2781. Abacosurf 03:13 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting CaicosRetiredSailor:
The critical numbers for us on Provo will be in the Forecast Advisory
where it states the extent of hurricane force winds

that is what saved Provo in Ike, as the Hurricane force winds of Ike
at that time only extended 46 miles from the center.
Good luck and God bless down there Caicos!!
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2783. kmanislander 03:13 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting yesterway:


Of course. Are you in the Bahamas now? If you are what are you plans?


No, I live on Grand Cayman
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2784. Patrap 03:13 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
It what surrounds the Eye of the Major thats Disturbing,destructive and with the right angle,devastating where the Surge crosses the coast and well inland,in multiple States sometimes. Its the impact that counts,not no SSS numbers and quantified stuff needed.

If you dont have to be there when it does. Dont.

A few days inconvience is better than the "other". Heat and Misery aint far behind after the winds and rains swirl away.

Have a plan and work it if your times called.


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2785. ecflweatherfan 03:13 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting Levi32:
Irene is about to enter the area where the southwesterly inflow into her eye will start coming off of the mountains of Hispaniola. Inflow coming down the mountain slopes warms and dries, and that drier, stable air then flows directly into the core of the storm, disrupting convective processes. Irene will likely continue to struggle with significant intensification until she is clear of this area.


Perhaps the reason we are seeing warming cloud tops at this time and the westward jog or wobble? Could have implications on the future track then...
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2786. beell 03:13 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
click to enlarge
Selected Dropsonde locations from Gonzo and the Air Force plane.

700/500mb heights indicated.

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2787. CaicosRetiredSailor 03:13 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Here are the critical numbers for Provo

FORECAST VALID 24/0000Z 21.1N 72.4W
MAX WIND 105 KT...GUSTS 130 KT.
64 KT... 45NE 25SE 25SW 40NW.
50 KT... 80NE 50SE 45SW 75NW.
34 KT...160NE 90SE 70SW 120NW.

hopefully the wind field won't expand a lot in next 24 hours

if above verifies, we would be outside the radius of 64 knot sustained

hope springs eternal
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2788. ecupirate 03:13 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting floodzonenc:
Just moved out of the flood zone a year ago.  My mother still lives in flood prone area.  One good thing about our mini-drought is that the rivers and tributaries are running very low...  When Floyd came through, Dennis had left the rivers pretty full which set the stage for the massive flooding.



Greenville will still flood, but not Floyd bad. Dennis was the reason that Floyd was so bad.

It will be bad for all of ENC and alot of homes on the OBX will go into the ocean with a Cat 3/4 storm surge.
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2789. pottery 03:13 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting kmanislander:


Most structures there are very strong but there is no hiding from the water. A CAT 4 will carry seriously high surge, maybe 25 feet in places as the surge rides on top of the waves and the water around those islands is fairly shallow allowing for the water to pile up.


Waters are shallow yes.
But the surge will tend to 'flow' around the small islands.
25' sounds high to me for the Bahamas.

???
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2790. LongIslandXpress38 03:13 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting sunlinepr:


Azores should be on high alert!
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2791. Edisonian 03:14 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
With South Florida still in the edge of the cone, would you anticipate watches/warnings in the next few days? Not too sure what to expect with schools around Ft. Lauderdale.
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2792. Patrap 03:14 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Best of luck CRS,, were looking over ya shoulder.
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2793. Andrew92survivor 03:14 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
I live on Miami Beach, FL and I'm cautiously optimistic with the latest forecast. Any slight deviation and it can spell trouble for SE FL. Fortunately for us though, the majority of the models continue to suggest a quicker curve to the North. The Bahamas will seemingly get the brunt of this hurricane soon.
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2794. ncstorm 03:14 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting tiggeriffic:


i have been filling empty juice jugs, soda bottles, etc with water all day and putting them in my freezer, will continue to do so until this is over... keeps my stuff from spoiling and when it does melt, we have extra water...just saying...people do have time to prepare if they do it before they are told to evacuate


I really dont think that is true..aint no way FEMA would make people prove they cant afford water..
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2795. charlottefl 03:14 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting tiggeriffic:


i have been filling empty juice jugs, soda bottles, etc with water all day and putting them in my freezer, will continue to do so until this is over... keeps my stuff from spoiling and when it does melt, we have extra water...just saying...people do have time to prepare if they do it before they are told to evacuate


Never even thought about or heard that suggestion before. Was just not saying people don't have time to prepare, just that ice is hard to come by with no power...
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2796. NCHurricane2009 03:15 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Here it comes...warm spot evident.



LOL...its been like "here comes the eye" when it comes to Irene for like the last 1000 posts....LOL
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2797. yesterway 03:15 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting kmanislander:


No, I live on Grand Cayman


Glad to hear it :-)
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2798. LADobeLady 03:15 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting charlottefl:


I don't know whether it's so much of a can't afford to buy it issue as it is, if there's no power, there's nowhere to make it. Therefore if no one brings it in, how do people get it. I'm sure most people would be happy to pay for ice after a bad storm. I know I would have after Charley. Luckily, we didn't have to tho.


Here is SE LA we purchased it after storms. Lots of ice plants here because it is a fishing community. The ice trucks would pull up in the grocery store parking lot and we just all stood in line and bought it.
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2799. HouGalv08 03:15 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting Patrap:


Excellent,,those later runs will Give us a good track tomorrow.

Then folks will shift gears into a "OMG" moment.

Been there, done that with Rita and Ike. Rita absolutely freaked me out. Was like staring down the barrel of a gun.
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2800. RMM34667 03:15 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
Quoting TampaMishy:
That was two years ago.


Yeah but that is in response to a question asked a 1/2 hour ago.. I'm just that many pages back trying to catch up.
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2801. yesterway 03:15 AM GMT am 23. August 2011    
I would imagine Bahahurricane is long gone by now....
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